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I'm also reading it at the moment. So far, I'm quite positive. I won't say I love it, but it keeps me engaged and is interesting. I like the characters enough, although I have to say I find the Gatherer's convictions appalling. Eugh, I believe you're better off dead, so no need to be afraid. All fine if someone asked for it, but in the other cases I think it's pretty disgusting.

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I'm hoping they'll become more reasonable in time. I can sort of see how the boy Nijiri? I'm somewhat put off by the role of women in the Gujareen society, but I like Sunandi and her friend Lin. Too bad Lin died, Sunandi and Lin seemed to have a good friendship, Sunandi even acknowledging Lin's superior skills. I like that darker skin is better. And I like that we see things from the villain's viewpoint at least, I assume the Prince is the villain , and he makes sense.

I'm curious to see where this'll go Jul 9, , pm. I found an explanation about the moons on Jemisin's blog: But there are other gods, and a whole cosmology to contain them. How interesting! I suppose the bands actually are bands like those on our own solar system's gas giants. I'm going to run a group read of the companion book next month, if you're curious. Most reviewers who have read both books seem to think the second one is better, but I think it has more of a romance plot, and I had definitely mixed feelings about the romances in Jemisin's Inheritance Trilogy so I'm a little apprehensive about that.

I think their ethics are made a little bit more clear later on- there's a terminally ill woman who refuses Gathering when it's offered, and is allowed to live with no questions asked - but the system still seems extraordinarily open to abuse for political reasons. I'd like to know a little bit more about how the tithebearers are selected under normal circumstances- there's something called an Assay of Truth that happens, but what that entails is kind of vague to me. One interesting comparison that comes to mind is the Assassin's Guild in C.

Cherryh 's Foreigner , which is kind of the inverse of this- assassinations are expected to be personally or politically motivated, but the Filing of Intent is made public and fair warning is given to the target and their bodyguard, and there are checks and balances in play. I have to admit that I am always a little disappointed when authors invent an interesting, complex society with lots of potential and then only show it to us at its most dysfunctional, endangered, and broken point- I tend to be curious about what life is like for people who just live in places with systems like Gathering under normal conditions, who aren't themselves the biggest political movers and shakers, or characterized as being awesome by virtue of reacting against a different, being The Person Who Sees That Things Are Broken And Leads A Revolution To Victory, Unlike Those Other Contemptible Ignorant Sheeple Followers I'm looking at you, YA dystopian genre.

I expect that epic fantasy, with its variously apocalyptic stakes, isn't really the place for such things though- the city, kingdom, world, etc almost has to be in disarray and peril. Jul 10, , am. The story gripped me from the start and the world felt more real than in the first book. Jul 10, , pm. I'm glad to hear that from you both - I'll freely admit that the fact there was supposed to be more of a central romance turned me off.

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I did very much enjoy the concept of the world, and if the romance isn't awful, I think I'll pick the next one up. Jul 11, , pm. I'm just about to three quarters of the way through, and I'm afraid the book is losing me again Big spoilers here. The caravan massacre was just a bit much, to me. I don't think it's out of character for the Prince to do something like that, but this is about the third or fourth death that's happened- Kinja offscreen, Lin's by the Reaper, Sunandi's Bromarte contact's cousin, now a third of Gehanu's minstrel caravan, and all I'm getting is "I'm so sorry for you Sunandi, you must feel really guilty, oh well, these things happen".

Even Gehanu's first reaction seems to be "It's okay, I still love you like a daughter Sunandi"- I just can't help but feel that these people's first concern in the loss of their loved ones would probably not be making Sunandi feel better. With Gehanu's caravan in particular, Sunandi seems to think "this is horrible, now Gehanu won't like me" rather than "this is horrible, a bunch of people just died " and it's making it hard for me to like her- especially since the guilt we're told she feels about these things seems to disappear between scenes as the story moves on.

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I can understand her putting it aside, but it seems to be a big deal and just then disappears without explanation, with the sole exception of her continuing grief about Lin. There seem to be some inconsistencies too- at some early point, there's something about a Bromarte man trying not to cry because Bromartes don't cry in front of women with the implication to me that Gujaareen men, by contrast, do, without a problem , but in Ehiru's childhood flashback and at least one other mention it seems like it's shameful for men to cry at all.

Specifically, crying and wetting the bed are used to characterize his older brother as somewhat weak and cowardly. In another part, I had thought we were told Gatherers don't dream, but without comment I think we've seen both Ehiru and Nijiri dream outside of Ehiru's hallucinations without it being remarked on.

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  7. Maybe I'm misreading here, or misunderstanding? I'm still curious to see where things go from here, but a little less enthusiastically than I was last post. Jul 12, , am. I can forget about it relatively easily while not reading, but when I pick it up, I get quite engaged.

    I do think Ehiru is too naive. And I'm still not entirely clear what this pradje ceremony is.

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    It seems to be somewhat questionable, involving sleeping with young boys, possibly hurting them. As some form of test? I just read a piece about how there is inherent madness involved in this form of magic Hananja holding the dream world in her mind, and letting everyone in, therefore not having a space to think her own thoughts. Perhaps that's where the madness comes from. If they really don't dream and I see in the previous post that this is questionable , I can see why the Gatherers might go mad if they don't gather dreamblood.

    Which makes the whole process dubious: if you go mad without killing, you need to be a strong person not to kill when the situation warrants it. Difficult to question the need for killing that way The issue brought up at Nijiri's test when we first hear about the pradje was a little confusing, but as I read it the pedophile thing was different- one of the teachers offered to make sure Nijiri didn't get pradje duty in exchange for sex.

    With the way the other Gatherers were like "pedophile, whatever" basically and the thing was dropped, I wasn't sure if the whole thing was a setup to see how Nijiri reacted maybe? The story does look at some of the questions you raise at the end of your post there. The Gatherers seem to be "mad" in various ways before they are selected, so it's not clear to me how much is withdrawal and how much is their symptoms, no longer treated by dreamblood, coming back out- later it's said that Gatherers' bodies "no longer produce dreamblood" because of their gathering, so maybe their original problems come back, even worse because they don't have their own body's naturally produced dreamblood to balance things out?

    Dreamblood seems to be a fix all treatment for their issues but also addictive- kind of both medication and recreational drug. So we sort of end up with a mental health patient who needs medication to function slash junkie who will kill to get a fix I read the Gatherers attitudes to the paedophile priest more strongly - yes, that scenario with Nijiri was a test, but they struck me as disapproving, rather than accepting, of the priest's proclivities.

    I still read it as a form of corruption, but perhaps that was my sensibilities creeping in rather than theirs coming through. Thinking back, they were far more explicitly disapproving of Nijiri's acceptance and silence lack of rebellion as an expression of his low caste, although they called out that this had implications for the boys he left behind in the priest's clutches.

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    They didn't specifically say they'd do anything about that I suppose I just sort of assumed they might. One thing I found interesting in the confrontation between Ehiru and Sunandi was that he could sense her belief in what she said.

    It would be very easy for him to say that she has been judged guilty, as this isn't a judicial system that allows for defence or appeal, and that no matter what else she claims, she admits to spying and must therefore die as corrupt. There may well be a Reaper at large, and he could investigate that after she is dead - her life is utterly irrelevant to that truth, and he could be grateful for her sharing it without showing her mercy for it.

    The Lawful Good interpretation of justice, if you will.


    She is still guilty, within the narrow definition of Gujaareen law. Arguably, even his own suspicions that he is being used - that repeated phrase - could be held secondary to the fact that as a spy, she is corrupt - and the defence that 'everybody's doing it' is hardly much of a defence ; I'm always intrigued by the notion of quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    As far as I can see, the Gatherers are a law unto themselves - faith alone is meant to keep them honest - unless I've missed something. As noted above, I'd be very curious to see how this plays out for the common citizen although I think we're meant to get a sense of that from Ehiru's first Gathering, which is welcomed. Edited: Jul 12, , am.

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    I agree, imyril, Ehiru is very sincere, and follows his own conscience, not just the letter of his religion. I think he is a very moral man. I find that sincerity irking, though. In his case I think there is a kind of stupidity to it. The insistence that Gathering is not killing for instance. Killing is to cause someone to become dead. Gathering is causing someone to be dead. You could argue that it is not murder, but how could you say it is not killing? Even Ehiru's own people don't really understand this, or it wouldn't have to be carried out with such stealth. Clearly someone from another society would have more problems with it.